tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post7497630830217730704..comments2024-02-26T20:52:27.680-08:00Comments on Thinking Inside the Box: General RPG Lists: Most Annoying CharactersThe RPGeniushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-38991852324874158292017-11-15T03:46:27.208-08:002017-11-15T03:46:27.208-08:00You're quite welcome! Glad I could be of some ...You're quite welcome! Glad I could be of some help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-6648233845347255092017-11-13T20:28:12.036-08:002017-11-13T20:28:12.036-08:00Hey, I was a dumb kid who liked DBZ, too, once upo...Hey, I was a dumb kid who liked DBZ, too, once upon a time. Let he who was without youthful indiscretions cast the first stone, and all that.<br /><br />You know, reading your thoughts on Squall...I am frankly shocked and amazed that I never picked up on that before. You're absolutely, 100% on the mark--Squall's shitty pretense of a personality is being enabled from start to finish by the rest of the cast. I (and anyone with eyes) have known for decades that FF8 is almost indistinguishable from a really, really bad fanfiction written by an early teen, and yet, somehow, 1 of the most telling angles of that managed to totally escape my attention until now. I've always been so caught up in how shitty Squall and Rinoa are themselves and with each other, that I never paid enough attention to the way everyone else was making it possible.<br /><br />*Fascinating!* Thanks for pointing that out to me; I'm always intrigued to have nuances in RPGs' storytelling methods that I missed pointed out to me. Usually those are GOOD nuances, of course, but it's still very interesting and fun, it turns out, to discover bad ones, too!The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-56032538947810243792017-11-12T01:05:35.541-08:002017-11-12T01:05:35.541-08:00"Albel is basically Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z..."Albel is basically Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z--a worthless, selfish, arrogant prick who lacks the basic humanity to learn from his experiences, barely half a step above a rabid dog." "Just like with Vegeta, many people have no problem forgiving Albel for his shitty personality and lack of character depth because they somehow misidentify him as being cool. " HIOOOOOOOOOOOOOO<br /><br />But seriously though that was spot on, even as a dumb kid who loved DBZ (please don't judge) I thought Vegeta was an incredibly lame, whiny loser. Literally all he ever does is drag an already mediocre at best anime series even further down every time he steals the spotlight from the more interesting and likeable characters.<br /><br />And my biggest problem with Squall isn't so much the character but rather the way everyone else acts around him. You'd think a protagonist who's a complete and utter wanker for the vast majority of the game would set up a lot of interpersonal conflict among the main cast but no, everyone always, and I literally do mean ALWAYS, showers him with praise and affection no matter what he says or does. No matter how much he tries to push everyone away they'll still be madly in love with him and cling to him like glue. And every time he DOES get through to them that he wants absolutely nothing to do with them, they'll momentarily feel bad and act like it's somehow all their fault, then as if nothing happened go right back to praising him if he so much as sneezes in their direction. There's no sense of team dynamic or chemistry at all, something that FF never excelled at to begin with, everyone loves Squall simply because he's the main character. Like the ultimate form of nerdy wish fulfilment you see more and more of in anime these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-39435735480436178932014-11-24T12:02:54.916-08:002014-11-24T12:02:54.916-08:00I've yet to play Grandia 3 but damn.
Also I a...I've yet to play Grandia 3 but damn.<br /><br />Also I argue Fi from Skyward sword is more annoying at least you can somewhat ignore Navi Fi never ever stops helping even when you know damn well what you have to do in a dungeon.<br /><br />Normally I always try to find something I like in a charactea be it superficial(like looks) or usefulness. Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-88791331849861075832014-11-20T06:38:01.178-08:002014-11-20T06:38:01.178-08:00Well...I guess it might be a little fanservice-y, ...Well...I guess it might be a little fanservice-y, but I dunno, it doesn't really show much of anything of her, nor seem to make much of a visual temptation. I mean, RPGs (and everything else) employ far more titillating and obvious means of fanservice so routinely that this doesn't even show up on my pandering radar. Maybe that's the wrong attitude to have, though. I'll have to give it some thought.<br /><br />And yeah, that is a very generous interpretation of Alfina's character but given the general level of writing ability present in the rest of Grandia 3 and the fact that the whole thing is played exactly as straight as any other regular RPG, I'm gonna say that you give the writers way, way too much credit on that one. I can certainly see how Alfina could be a parody of RPG tropes, but I think this is a case where something that's so bad it <i>should</i> be a parody is actually <i>just that bad</i>.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-35991734828320135152014-11-19T18:24:23.641-08:002014-11-19T18:24:23.641-08:00My phone doesn't seem to let me reply directly...My phone doesn't seem to let me reply directly, but anyway...the main part that irritates me is how her portrait is centered between the head and chest. It just seems like unnecessary objectification to me. I've admittedly not completed the game, though, so I'm probably overreacting.<br /><br />I interpreted Alfina as the writers mocking how NPCs in towns always repeat the same dialogue due to programming limitations, with how she repeats the ellipses, but that's probably giving them too much credit.<br />Heaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-3103206180956704552014-11-19T17:45:32.953-08:002014-11-19T17:45:32.953-08:00I don't really think Burroughs breaks immersio...I don't really think Burroughs breaks immersion in anything but the smallest of ways; I've seen plenty of other assistance characters/devices do the same and have no worse effect. I am curious, though--how is Burroughs fanservice? Is she done by some popular voice actress that I'm not aware of, or something?<br /><br />Also, Alfina did have a personality other than repeating ellipses, but that cleverly hidden personality was a useless, nauseating, cloying, clingy, one-dimensional twit, so it's best not to even bother searching and just accept the nonstop pauses on their own.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-58184098189956316502014-11-19T16:47:45.853-08:002014-11-19T16:47:45.853-08:00I didn't find Navi that annoying, honestly. At...I didn't find Navi that annoying, honestly. At least she (he?) doesn't interrupt plot scenes every time the party gets a new quest (breaking immersion) and Navi isn't an unnecessary attempt at fan service, unlike Burroughs from SMT4. Opinions and all that jazz, though.<br /><br />And yeah, Teddie is one of the more annoying characters out there.<br /><br />Did Alfina have much of a personality other than repeating ellipses?Heaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-89089305417788258042014-11-19T09:38:33.992-08:002014-11-19T09:38:33.992-08:00You really don't want to try Lufia: Curse of t...You really don't want to try Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals. It's the kind of thing you'll regret at the end of your life. Like war crimes, and buying Chris Brown's music.<br /><br />I admit that I did miss that scene of Albel's. But y'know, it doesn't change my opinion. First of all, that's not an adequate reason for his behavior at all. Other characters front to cover their low self esteem or whatever without being a grandstanding, vicious fucktard about it. Secondly, adequate reason or not, it doesn't change that he DOES behave that way, and never gets any better.<br /><br />And hey, the rest of the SMTP4 gang had plenty of endearing character traits! I mean, Chie...well actually, she's kinda dull, but Yukiko has that...laugh which is so annoying that it alone might actually make this list. But Kanji...is surprisingly generic for a guy with his character issues, and Naoto...practically doesn't exist she's so lacking presence...hm. Well, Rise's sweet and fun, and Yosuke's good natured and a decent person. But yeah...I don't think I ever realized it before, but most of the main characters of SMTP4, while having adequate depth and motivation to make them good characters, aren't really that endearing/appealing, are they?<br /><br />And no, that dipshit is Dean from Wild Arms 5. Dean is a special brand of stupid for the beginning third of the game (and only gets marginally less dumb after his little personal enlightenment), but he does not come anywhere, ANYWHERE, close to Jude.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-77028398608282682342014-11-19T09:15:40.409-08:002014-11-19T09:15:40.409-08:00A bit of trivia. Hey Listen returns in Hyrule warr...A bit of trivia. Hey Listen returns in Hyrule warriors even more high pitch. But this comes off as a more self deprecating humor throw back than annoying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-21200572882159183082014-11-19T03:27:36.921-08:002014-11-19T03:27:36.921-08:0010. Thank you. I had forgotten most of her charact...10. Thank you. I had forgotten most of her character, but the moment you mentioned Klein, that shop NPC came back. I never did get what was so endearing about gutless love interests. Apparently they pander to gutless live interests in the real world.<br /><br />Klein/Norn bromance is the OTP anyway. You make me want to witness the wreck that is Curse of the Sinistrals. Slightly.<br /><br /><br />8. Albel gets a short and very missable scene where he straight up declares that he's weak, and that he's a tryhard to compensate. Not much, and it's after most of his grandstanding, but it's something. Note that I'm comparing him to Vegeta, who has YEARS of dickery to his name.<br /><br />7. First, Navi never says "hey, listen" in a single statement. Complete Beam Me Up Scotty, that. That aside, Navi was a valuable tool for many gamers new to 3D, particularly to 3D Zelda. She was also an in-universe tool that sidesteps the awkward "press A to do something" schtick sooner than later. She's one of Zelda's more annoying characters due to being so outspoken yet lacking personality*, but I just don't see her. Also her text is usually instantly skippable unlike that opiate fiend Fi. I predict a 48% chance fuck off. That said, I'm not much of a fan of Navi.<br /><br />Compare to Tatl, who is a total bitch yet ends up being adorable.<br /><br />6. I like to think Squall list his goddamned mind during the train heist briefing, and spends the rest of the game not giving a damn about anything. His romance could be interpreted as "I don't know why, but she's into me. This may be my only chance".<br /><br />Your challenge to play 8 is tempting, but that would involve watching Quistis be an idiot and leave her post during said assassination mission, and Quistis being anything less than the smartest person in FF8 at any moment never happens in my happy little world.<br /><br />5. You know you're bad when you stand out in a cast full of unendearing character traits.<br /><br />4. Now you're just making me sad.<br /><br />3. Jude's the METEOR DRIIIIIVE dipshit, right?<br /><br />2. Shana is rigged to be a loser. No personality, constantly confined, and she lacks timed inputs in a game built around timed inputs more than Super Mario RPG. What the fuck. It's not as if anyone not named Rose or maybe Lavitz is memorable, but come the fuck on.<br /><br />1. This bitch.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I support more legalese in these rants.Ecclesiastesnoreply@blogger.com