tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post5090036529940176246..comments2024-02-26T20:52:27.680-08:00Comments on Thinking Inside the Box: Kingdom Hearts 2's Villain ProblemThe RPGeniushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-706189808120420802015-04-29T22:29:51.280-07:002015-04-29T22:29:51.280-07:00I made this rant a year or so before playing KH358...I made this rant a year or so before playing KH358/2D, so she's not mentioned here, but...yeah, that pretty much sums her up exactly. I might not be generous enough to use "tragic," maybe more along the lines of "mildly unfortunate," but essentially, that is exactly it right there.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-51210050571136336232015-04-29T13:08:04.640-07:002015-04-29T13:08:04.640-07:00I suppose your opinion on Xion can basically be su...I suppose your opinion on Xion can basically be summed up as "Tragic, but stupid, and the memory thing makes less sense than if had never been explained at all"?Greener221https://www.blogger.com/profile/17090007784689509445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-55208325861999425992012-05-10T19:14:23.943-07:002012-05-10T19:14:23.943-07:00Its mainly when you find out who Xion exacly is
K...Its mainly when you find out who Xion exacly is<br /><br />Keep in mind her name is similar to Shion as in the flower<br /><br />also no iAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-90898926541840807712012-05-10T19:00:43.037-07:002012-05-10T19:00:43.037-07:00I don't even wanna know. Although I suppose s...I don't even wanna know. Although I suppose some day I will anyways. Curse my need to play every RPG.<br /><br />I'm actually playing 358/2 Days right now (possibly the dumbest title ever), and I'm fairly far along, and...I don't see it. Xion's the most interesting member of the cast, I suppose, but the cast is obscenely boring as a rule. I'm not impressed with her thus far. Maybe she gets better, though.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-46993552896877129902012-05-10T17:23:14.346-07:002012-05-10T17:23:14.346-07:00Its gets worse now the main villan is teaming up w...Its gets worse now the main villan is teaming up with...his past self...yeah<br /><br />But on the Bright side 358/2 days does give us Xion who was voted best new character in 2009 in the nintendo power polls and her story is very well written for the most partAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-39862972293429168362012-02-02T19:21:16.911-08:002012-02-02T19:21:16.911-08:00"People shouldn't judge things until they..."People shouldn't judge things until they actually play them. After that they can be nicky picky on things."<br /><br />You're saying I shouldn't judge the characters and villains of Kingdom Hearts 2 until after I play a game that ISN'T KH2 and was made AFTER it to explain all the characters because they weren't adequately explored in the game they debuted as important individuals in.<br /><br />So I shouldn't criticize a game for not adequately developing its characters during its events if it...didn't adequately develop its characters during its events.<br /><br />How logical.<br /><br />Also, thanks for giving me the basic rundown of the villains in the game, I'm well aware of their roles already, as one would usually assume from the fact that I don't give any indication during the rant of being unfamiliar with any of them.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-39811512587122472522012-02-02T15:01:05.644-08:002012-02-02T15:01:05.644-08:00Not to spoil anything, but Hutchback of Nortre Dom...Not to spoil anything, but Hutchback of Nortre Dome Quasiamoto and Frollo, and other of its characters will be in the newest kingdom hearts game. The game is called Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance 3D I believe. Even the beagle boys are in this game. Noruma puts in characters that people would recognize and gargoyles, Dark Wing duck is not something everyone recognizes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-83237510328284086772012-02-02T14:45:46.793-08:002012-02-02T14:45:46.793-08:00SquareEnix wanted their own villians that weren...SquareEnix wanted their own villians that weren't disney oriented so that is why you have heartless and nobodies. Without then no one would be able to figure where they came from. KH 2 FM gives them more of a role, where they are actually planning and not just popping up anywhere. Unfornately this game is only in Japan which KH FM is as well. The organization were supposed to be myserious characters and were supposed to be oringally added to the english ones, but SqareEnix had time restraints which is why they have two games in Japan with added cut scenes and extra bosses.<br /><br />The disney villains are independent and work on their own universe for a reason which includes the greek mythology with Hades. <br /><br />Ansem derived from the nobodies and without them there would of been no Ansem or nobodies or even heartless. <br /><br />Nobodies, (Organization XIII) don't have emotions, but they have memories which gives them the part to act upon it. They are very deceitful and play along with ruse to have their enemies fall into their trap. They are extremely popular characters and have a huge fan base so I don't see them going anywhere except to have their origns explained in later games. Normura works backwards when he makes his games and sees what the audience wants and decides which characters stay and go.<br /><br />Roxas actually has a game as well which tells of his time in the organization. People shouldn't judge things until they actually play them. After that they can be nicky picky on things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-1086527316072934832011-05-26T20:42:02.171-07:002011-05-26T20:42:02.171-07:00Ecc, my man, good to see you. Good to see anyone ...Ecc, my man, good to see you. Good to see anyone who'll comment, really, but particularly so with you.<br /><br />I can get on board the idea of a group of villains who are incapable of emotion, but recognize that which they're now missing and feel compelled to take steps to recapture it. The problem for me with how the Nobodies are handled, besides the fact that they make lousy villains overall, is that it's painfully obvious that they DO feel emotion. Roxas and Axel obviously share an emotional bond of some sort (perhaps not as romantic as fangirls would like to think, but emotional nonetheless). Namine shows a fairly wide range of emotions. Several emotions are shown by various members of Organization 13. Hell, just the bummed-out yearning and passive-aggressive anger that the head of the organization portrays in his desire seems suspiciously emotional! Thoroughly unconvincing.<br /><br />It's not like such characters aren't possible to portray fairly well, too. Years before KH, Data of Star Trek: The Next Generation would quite nicely show an emotionless individual that yearned for emotion. Shanoa of Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia did the schtick alright, too. If your character wants emotions because he/she doesn't have emotions, then DON'T SHOW HIM/HER BEING EMOTIONAL.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-63361723017614804162011-05-26T17:48:25.494-07:002011-05-26T17:48:25.494-07:00Ecc here, gonna make an account here when I can be...Ecc here, gonna make an account here when I can be bothered.<br /><br />IMO, Square fucked up from the moment they made the Nobodies completely emotionless characters. Even the most deranged sociopath has some emotional capacity, and even if the total lack of emotion is conceivable in some way, how the shit does that translate to an effective fictional character?<br /><br />I have played Birth by Sleep for the PSP. However. I still don't know if the story was simple yet decent, or just really shallow. Disney does play a greater role, but the Disney factor is entirely episodic this time around, with the central, original cast being the only overarching element.<br /><br />Either way, it's a solid action game with an 8-15 hour plot told three times from different perspectives.<br /><br />Did I mention the villains are drastically improved? For original KH villains, I was honestly impressed more than once. But I'm just one opinion, and a rather pedestrian one at that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com