tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post4745187255994979687..comments2024-02-26T20:52:27.680-08:00Comments on Thinking Inside the Box: General RPGs' Anime RetellingsThe RPGeniushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-72074746173143796412012-10-11T20:27:46.696-07:002012-10-11T20:27:46.696-07:00I completely agree with everything you say about A...I completely agree with everything you say about AC, and I honestly didn't enjoy FF7 nearly as much as the other installments (I beat a friend's copy using a walkthrough to experience the game in 2008, and even then it felt a bit of a grind), but I honestly say I actually have enjoyed this movie since G4TV showed some Japanese previews. I'm a sucker for drama, and Kadaj and Sephiroth were good generators of this for me. Also, why is it it wrong to show what the events of FF7 and those evevents following have done to Cloud? By the end of the movie I saw him as a person just like anyone else. Even getting past Aeris' death in the game, it is not outside the scope of the human condition for grief to relapse, especially in a "look at the 'great' hero, now" situation (he only had to worry about if he could kill Sephiroth before, and he was, but now he is faced with an apparently unstoppable plague that makes having all the power in the world seem worthless just like the death he wasn't able to prevent those years ago...).<br /><br />All that said, the movie is still just high-tech fanservice : /Giauzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09045059974421586849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-72400834568117339592012-10-11T18:51:19.659-07:002012-10-11T18:51:19.659-07:00I've always been iffy about ranting specifical...I've always been iffy about ranting specifically on stuff like FF7AC. I mean...I guess that's what I'm doing here, but this one still distinctly retains an actual connection to RPGs. If I just rant about the outside things based on RPGs by themselves, I'm not sure it's an RPG rant any more. But I've done more questionable off-topic rants before, I suppose, so perhaps I will make a rant about FF7AC some day.<br /><br />...If I can form a clear rant about it, that is. I mean, sometimes something's just such a moronic mess that I can't even get a decent foothold on it. Xenosaga 3's story and Mass Effect 3's ending come to mind (yes, there IS still more to decry about ME3's ending; I realize new ways it's lousy at least once a week).<br /><br />But anyways, yeah, your point is the one I'm trying to make here. Even the crappy RPG-based stuff like FF7AC and the Sakura Wars 5 anime miniseries still represent an actual creative venture, where all these various other retellings just plain don't. It's very annoying.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-67276519758525887482012-10-11T14:47:20.301-07:002012-10-11T14:47:20.301-07:00That's the thing about the FFVII Compilation. ...That's the thing about the FFVII Compilation. Much of it is awkward, out of flavor with the source, and downright damaging to the contexts of the source's plot, but they're at least original products. Advent Children was a nonsensical follow up full of villains who have no logical reason to exist, an emo git who's pretending he's at all similar to any attitude Cloud ever had in VII, who has companions who don't seem to give a fuck about him, and they managed to turn Bahamut into some immobile who would rather play chicken with some guy who may as well be an Ancient rather than just Mega Flare his ass. Then you have a not-dead Rufus, a Tseng who if not explicitly killed, was conspicuously never seen or heard from after seeing him sliced by Sephiroth only to be alive and well here, and Vincent going Bram Stoker on silver-haired motherfuckers who are for some reason far beyond people who have physically punched dragons to death and can fight on the ocean floor for twenty minutes. There's a rant for ya.<br /><br />And yet, it was still an original product that didn't copy/paste the story of an interactive game into 90 minutes of recap.<br /><br />Now, take Tales of the Abyss. The story itself,the basic chain of events and the setting behind everything, was interesting and good. I didn't care for the way it was told, and that things were so melodramatic and arbitrary on such a regular basis as to make Days of our Lives jealous. However, let's assume I loved the game, which I more or less did. The anime is still a story I already experienced, taken out of its context as a game, losing all the battles and music and skits and gameplay I love, and given little to nothing new to compensate. And let's be real here. The story is not the main reason I play Tales games. It's a massive package that doesn't gain much from being condensed into an anime port. Because the game wasn't anime enough the first time around?Ecclesiastes(273)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12472479463263586707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-84761642202000120872012-10-09T12:51:29.570-07:002012-10-09T12:51:29.570-07:00...short rant...its like my 7th/8th grade english ......short rant...its like my 7th/8th grade english teacher...we allways go over time :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-91315108167966508972012-10-08T18:44:07.455-07:002012-10-08T18:44:07.455-07:00Yup, know all about that mess. I actually went an...Yup, know all about that mess. I actually went and read through a translated script of Xenosaga: Pied Piper just for the heck of it.<br /><br />Anyway, the rant I'll be doing is going to be pretty light and small, actually. The indescribably clusterfuck of Xenosaga's story and characters and its behind-the-scenes stuff is too much for even me to handle.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-31514484448641141632012-10-08T13:23:16.619-07:002012-10-08T13:23:16.619-07:00Eh as a general rule most anime adaptations of gam...Eh as a general rule most anime adaptations of games tends to be the same anyways that's why I never really bothered to care much about them to begin with.Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-30652597557790357142012-10-08T12:41:42.177-07:002012-10-08T12:41:42.177-07:00Then I should mention that Xenosaga was originaly ...Then I should mention that Xenosaga was originaly suppose to be a 6(later 7 after ep1 was split into episode 1 and 2) episode long series but do to poor sales, and writter leaving project it has long been cancelled.<br /><br />Also refer to Xenosaga a lost year which is basically the bridge to between 2 and 3.<br /><br />and to a lesser exstent Pied Piper which was ziggy's backstory<br /><br />Last note Why Shion why did they change you so much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-78978015837377700422012-10-08T11:33:50.415-07:002012-10-08T11:33:50.415-07:00I...USED to have some short rants. I think if you...I...USED to have some short rants. I think if you go far enough back, some of'em are pretty short. Just not any more, it seems. Ah well.<br /><br />And yeah, that's exactly what I mean--the mediums are not, nowadays, far enough apart in storytelling style or visuals that an anime adaptation of the same story can offer anything worth your time and money.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-86960606761041146152012-10-08T11:29:35.363-07:002012-10-08T11:29:35.363-07:00I actually just finished playing Xenosaga 3 last m...I actually just finished playing Xenosaga 3 last month, coincidentally enough. Actually, my next rant will, I think, be about it.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-78476547981132535022012-10-08T09:40:04.368-07:002012-10-08T09:40:04.368-07:00Hmm... do you actually have 'short rants'?...Hmm... do you actually have 'short rants'? :) Though, this one is impressive in length, even by the standards of your other posts.<br /><br />I've never really gotten into the whole making/watching an anime of something that - as you said - already was told. I thought that was one of the cool things about Advent Children - at least it was a new story. Not saying it was a great story, but at least there was a reason to watch it, because it was not retelling what I already knew. It might have made more sense years ago, when video games lacked the visual quality of movies, but now the difference is so slim, it's probably not worth the effort.Chalgyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10879608925209948366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-14937586834594257302012-10-08T09:36:04.753-07:002012-10-08T09:36:04.753-07:00Yeah Xenosaga the animation was not a good adaptat...Yeah Xenosaga the animation was not a good adaptation (though they ended up useing some of the plot points in Xenosaga 1+2)<br /><br />also I did read though some of your arcives and you never did say you played Xeonsaga 3 yet<br /><br />I do like Persona 4 the animation because it fits the game very well, it shows some scenes with were only metiioned in passing in the game and it did a very good job with Yu's character (he is voted most loved anime male for 2 years in a row now) toough they ended up messing up with the true ending in my opnion as it ended up breaking Yu (and in extention Marie's) charcter and i was over all rushed Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com