tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post364265256411677961..comments2024-02-26T20:52:27.680-08:00Comments on Thinking Inside the Box: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2's Equality Ending's Supposed FlawThe RPGeniushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-35208435269783711282016-10-08T12:08:53.796-07:002016-10-08T12:08:53.796-07:00Really, the problem is that, while you do a good j...Really, the problem is that, while you do a good job of explaining the law faction of this game, the GAME ITSELF doesn't.<br /><br />Ronaldo's very actions from the beginning (which get worse as he progresses) don't seem genuine. They're "I must stop Hotsuin" not "I want to create a world of equality". Yamato, as biased as his opinions are, genuinely feels this, and sticks with it in Ronaldo's path. Remember how he saves you from the Tsuutenkaku collapse? Meanwhile in the opposite scenario when siding with Ronaldo... he tries to launch an attack on Yamato after he's been given the offer of a truce and falls into a river.<br /><br />But my biggest worry though is that... well, Ronaldo only tells Polaris what he wishes for in this world. POLARIS is the one in construction of the human mind after the brainwash (cause that's what it essentially is in the law and chaos routes) and we don't know whether humans will still think like the way you described them to. At least, that's my interpretation of it.<br /><br />But being fully truthful though, even if the Septentrione arc isn't the best at conveying the themes well, the gameplay is so much better than Devil Survivor 1 and the story is better than the Triangulum arcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-43535018666392457382016-05-17T12:13:27.729-07:002016-05-17T12:13:27.729-07:00Thank you! I had no idea that the Ronaldo route is...Thank you! I had no idea that the Ronaldo route is often mocked by the fans, though. What's their problem with it?The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-52701587833700317782016-05-16T16:16:46.229-07:002016-05-16T16:16:46.229-07:00Interesting article, i mean, the Ronaldo route is ...Interesting article, i mean, the Ronaldo route is usually mocked by the fans. But you actually give a even better argument than the game itself for that route.<br /><br />qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03046996542489745497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-62347894229751782812013-11-15T20:55:53.009-08:002013-11-15T20:55:53.009-08:00Something I think is not nearly often enough exami...Something I think is not nearly often enough examined is the position of the soldier put on the spot to carry out bad orders. It's easy from the comfort of our civilian lives to say the soldier is wrong to do so, and certainly there is much truth in this, but it's a difficult position to be in, ordered by superiors whom you on some level have to trust to have the greater good in mind to do something you think is wrong, and be surrounded by others in the same position who may have no problem with it. Surrounded by peers and superiors with firearms and live ammunition, suddenly finding out that they're capable of something very disturbing, with a refusal meaning the end of our professional and perhaps even mortal lives, I wonder how either you or I might react.<br /><br />As for blaming the citizen, unless you happen to know whom they voted for, that's quite unfair. I voted for the Green Party last election (a better way of saying that might be "I knowingly threw my vote away last election") because Romney was the figurehead of a political party whose outright stated goal is the destruction of human rights, Obama already had a history of destruction of human rights, and I was, like most of America, adequately duped at the time by corrupt journalism into thinking Ron Paul was an unfit candidate. Every day I sign petitions against invasion of privacy and for the advancement of human rights, which is probably going to wind up putting me on some government hit list before too long. Should I be held accountable for the actions of leaders I didn't elect and took every action available to me to stop?<br /><br />As for religious followers, I more meant that it's unfair to attribute the lousiness of many outspoken religious leaders to all those (supposedly) of the same faith. Just because a person believes in Islam, that doesn't make them a terrorist, and just because I'm a Christian, that doesn't mean I'm a raving anti-homosexual bigot who has no respect for other faiths.<br /><br />Essentially, my point is that judgments need to be on a case-by-case basis, and need to recognize a separation between the leader and the little guy, even when, as you point out, there is often blame to be shared between them. And so I'll maintain that noble passions can be and are the motivation of some, even many, men and women who enlist in their military.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-15122896497684730082013-11-15T10:11:49.339-08:002013-11-15T10:11:49.339-08:00Oh I was referring to all militaries and yes ofc t...Oh I was referring to all militaries and yes ofc there will always be the good and bad of everything. However, dont blame the soldier for the commanders evil, when its the soldier that is carrying it out 0_0, dont blame the citizen when it is he/she who "voted" that person into power, dont blame the follower when it is he who blindly follows without understanding what it is he/she follows.... Sadly both parties are just as accountable, and in most cases the few good ones are either thrown under the bus and villainised, or downright hunted as enemies. But yea, the whole point was that your examples were very good without the need to bring in the military.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-80793925694740492402013-11-14T19:33:34.864-08:002013-11-14T19:33:34.864-08:00One must remember that there are many, many countr...One must remember that there are many, many countries in the world with militaries, not just ultra-corrupt First World nations like the one I guiltily inhabit and overly excitable smaller countries with bad blood. And while yes, unfortunately the military is used for some pretty nasty business quite often, and things are only going to get worse (the Obama administration is actively removing and replacing military leaders who say they won't fire on American citizens--isn't that a fun thought?), one must remember that corruption far more often flows down than up. Just because power-hungry trying-to-be-dictators are evil, that doesn't mean that all of, or even most of, the individual soldiers are. I personally know more than one good, honest, and passionate person who have served in the military for noble ideals.<br /><br />Always good to keep perspective--don't necessarily blame the soldier for the commander's evil, don't necessarily blame the citizen for the country's country's, don't necessarily blame the religious follower for the religious leader's misinterpretations.<br /><br />Either way, I think I adequately covered my argument with examples even if we discount the military.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-83863430061793762692013-11-14T12:35:52.438-08:002013-11-14T12:35:52.438-08:00Dont think using Military as means to show "p...Dont think using Military as means to show "passion" was a good choice for an example, specifically in current times where militaries (did I pluraize military correctly?) are more known for unjust atrocities then providing security against made up and non existent threatsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-56784201967831459242013-11-08T18:32:15.663-08:002013-11-08T18:32:15.663-08:00You bet your ass you can. I wish money were just ...You bet your ass you can. I wish money were just a little less tight at the moment; I would've loved to have my NPC be involved in an actual side quest.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-34997090546802661032013-11-08T13:31:07.141-08:002013-11-08T13:31:07.141-08:00Can we except you running around as an NPC?
Can we except you running around as an NPC?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com