tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post2689059956782607208..comments2024-02-26T20:52:27.680-08:00Comments on Thinking Inside the Box: Legrand Legacy's Party Members' DisharmonyThe RPGeniushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-63256163319563662232023-07-20T13:33:21.530-07:002023-07-20T13:33:21.530-07:00As I recall, it's not explicitly stated, but w...As I recall, it's not <i>explicitly</i> stated, but we basically see Finn and Aria undergoing a ceremony that looks a lot like a wedding ritual, and them talking together later in a way that definitely implies it. As far as matches made in Heaven and Hell, I think any relationship with Aria is a match made in Hell regardless. But frankly? Just because Finn's less of an asshole than some of his companions, that doesn't really mean he's not still a jerk. Let'im suffer, I say.<br /><br />See, if we play the assuming game, I'd put my money on the writers being a band of men with a problem with women so they made the game just to show their own warped, skewed view of how shrewish and hostile women are through Aria. Her awfulness has a distinct Male Writer flavor, to me. When your talentless team of hacks with self-caused problems with the opposite sex are female, the result looks more like Star Trek: Discovery.<br /><br />Yeah, it's a damn shame the game turned out like it did, because it did have a lot of potential. As you say, the setting is solid and the premise is decent, and the overall aesthetic and approach is very reminiscent of a corner of the old PS1/PS2 RPG era that was less colorful and more gritty fantasy, probably best characterized by the classic Legend of Dragoon. It's a largely overlooked part of the genre's history when it comes to our current age of indie homages. The cast had some potential, the writing overall was fine, and the writers at least cared to try to keep constantly involving and developing their characters through the adventure instead of letting any just quiet down and be there for the ride. They just sadly didn't know how to separate their healthy narrative focus from a constant stream of drama.<br /><br />Heh, you're welcome. This blog is basically MY form of therapy whenever I encounter a Legrand Legacy or Xenosaga 3 or Shin Megami Tensei 5 or Chrono Cross or whatnot, and you're more than welcome to soothe your psyche with it as much as you're able.<br /><br />Have you ever played Undertale? A sizable foundation of its purpose and story is based upon that very idea you've given. Just as you graciously defer to me out of the (extremely generous) idea that I might word it better, so too do I defer to the talented Toby Fox for his far superior ability to explore the idea.<br /><br />That's very kind and generous of you! Please don't feel obligated, though I will of course very happily accept whatever you offer. I appreciate it, and your readership!The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-68281603749296904382023-07-20T10:49:06.313-07:002023-07-20T10:49:06.313-07:00I will go by your Patreon and give you some suppor...I will go by your Patreon and give you some support when I get home from work ( yes I am normally working while I read these, it may be evident I don't have the most intellectually stimulating type of employment). You deserve to be compensated for keeping me amused. DustynBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00007423448393376983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-15837183681188713422023-07-20T10:36:04.048-07:002023-07-20T10:36:04.048-07:00Wasn't expecting a reply but thank you regardl...Wasn't expecting a reply but thank you regardless. One last point, and question I had, is that I heard through a friend that the ending had Aria and Finn getting married. You may not remember, but I just had to ask if that was true? As I stated I never completed the game, but I just had to know if this is true.<br /><br /> If so good god, that are matches made in heaven, and there are clearly matches made in hell if that is the path Finn wishes to walk. lol I just get this mental picture of the Developers being a band of women, who had suffered through a bad break up so they made a game strictly to have a woman belittle a man the entire run time. <br /><br />One final thought is yes I do agree with your assessment of Kael, however he was to "MEH" to ever be a serious member of the party so I sorta just forgot about him. His "Edge Lord" persona was insufferable as well. Kael also suffers from the "When you fight them they have hundreds of thousands of HP but when they join they have a couple hundred HP" syndrome. <br /><br /> Also not sure if you mentioned it but during the whole "Tree Scene" when the tree I believe looks at each members souls to see if they are worthy of being heroes. Every single member but Finn and (quite wizard girl cant remember her name) where placed in a limbo coma state. So basically everybody was unworthy of the title of hero but Finn and quite girl? That means they are the only 2 with pure souls and the only that can say they are "Good". It was never mentioned again since you just fight some enemies and now everybody is good? Just gonna say if I where Finn I would have thrown that fact in the face of each and ever party member. ha ha ha <br /><br />"You are not a Hero Finn! You don't belong here"<br />"Hmmm Oh really? Who did the tree choose again? Man sure was a good thing I was there to save the rest of you, or you all would still be in Limbo... Just sayin..." <br />(CRITICAL! YOUR SICK BURN HIT YOUR PARTY FOR 2,000,000 dmg!) <br /><br />This game could have really been something special. The way it was presented was a World that was an post apocalyptic Wasteland, where suffering was rampant. You a former Gladiator journeys across the land with an unknown Wizard who had bought your freedom. You fight your way through blasted valleys being populated by grotesque horrors and eldritch abominations, trying to discover what happened to this world to bring it ot the state it is in<br /><br />Sorry to keep forcing you to relieve the events of this title. I thank you for acting as the therapist as I medicate the scarring this game did to my psyche. Feel there needs to be a support group not for Drugs, Alcohol or Sex addiction, but to Games/ Game Plots, that you can physically feel your IQ decreasing as you play. <br /><br />PS. If you are looking for something to write about, there is one strange thing that is rarely covered but lately has been really nagging at me. The entire existence of humans and monsters in RPG's. Why the Hero, is out slaughtering monsters, who act more like animals than monsters? Like you are venturing through the land and killing anything that approaches you that isn't human? What if the monsters are friendly? Will never know since it got a sword smashed thru it's face when it walked up to say hello. Our noble hero, butchering creatures that don't look exactly like they do! SO NOBLE!!! lol I think you could word it better than I.... Just an idea. DustynBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00007423448393376983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-16118369991332910502023-07-14T21:25:31.853-07:002023-07-14T21:25:31.853-07:00While I am (naturally) always pleased to find that...While I am (naturally) always pleased to find that others agree with my opinions, I have to say that this is a rant where it's especially gratifying to know that it wasn't just me feeling this way. Considering the obscurity of the game and the extreme obscurity of this blog, I think the fact that 2 people have independently indicated that they had similar reactions to this game says that this was a common feeling in Legrand Legacy's audience.<br /><br />Yeah, Aria's truly abhorrent. I think Kael is significantly worse, but she'd still be enough to drag this game down to the point of being emotionally exhausting even without him around. The hypocrisy of her reaction to Finn's identity struck me, too. I hadn't thought of (or at least I don't remember doing so) just how fucked up it is that Finn is going straight to killing the guys who were cheering for him, though. I mean, it's shitty that he would kill his countrymen at all when, as you say, he probably could have achieved a nonviolent (or at least less violent) solution had he actually tried, but...yeah, the cheering aspect really makes it awful.<br /><br />Man, 5 years later and this game still manages to distress me anew the moment I think about it. Now that's some bad writing with staying power. It's like Chrono Cross, except not even fun to complain about.<br /><br />No apologies needed, friend, I love getting comments on my rants regardless of how old they are! Hell, to my chronologically wayward ass, this still feels like a new rant, anyway. I really appreciate our sharing your thoughts here! And wow, thank you so much for spending so much time reading this blog! It is really, really cool to know that I still can pick up a new reader now and then. Very much appreciated; I hope you've enjoyed reading and will continue to enjoy my rants in the future!The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-289907671009308332023-07-14T00:47:22.508-07:002023-07-14T00:47:22.508-07:00Greetings! I have spent the last 6 hours reading ...Greetings! I have spent the last 6 hours reading through each and every blog, and we share a lot of similar opinions. This the one that I had to reply to. I really enjoyed this game at first, especially in when it showed this powerful empire, and 2 Princes' talking about their dead father who refused to name either of them heir but instead named the unseen third son heir. Well this third son had sounded like an expert tactician and just an all around more badass character. Well those 2 brothers had gray hair and blue eyes, which Finn also had Grey hair and blue eyes, so I knew he was the third badass Prince. <br /><br />That was the hook that pulled me in. Than Aria happened. She was the most insufferable "CU*T" I have ever had the displeasure of listening to. She kept Kicking Finn right in the balls with her put downs and insults, all I could do was scream at my tv screen "FINN RUN HER THRU!! KILL THAT NAGGING WHORE!". <br /><br /> Alas that was not to come, Finn just takes it like a battered husband who's wife insults him every day. So after chugging along forcing myself to continue playing, it got to the part that broke me. That made me uninstall right then and there. <br /><br />The reveal of Finn the Prince. Now right before this they had this huge plot thread of everybody finding out that Aria is the princess of the enemy of the Empire, well Finn has no issue with this and he just accepts her regardless of being Royalty. 10 minutes later we find Finn is the missing Prince, and when the enemies soldiers find this out, they start cheering and clamoring that their beloved Prince has returned. However Aria EXPLODES ON FINN, demanding he be arrested and executed and what have you. Than the rest of the group joins in on FInn. Apparently FInn was an amazing warrior and killed a lot of Aria's people.... SO F***ING WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!??????? Did Aria not kill a ton of Finn's people? Did Finn not just 10 minutes earlier forgive you for deceiving the group? You than refuse to do that for him? DIE ARIA!!!!!!!! DIE!!!!!!!! I cannot stand this character. <br /><br />So after that exchange battle starts. Finn stays with the group and begins killing the men who where just cheering his name?....Are you freaking kidding me Finn? They loved you, you could have EASILY wrestled control of the Army from your brothers! Nobody thought to mention this idea once it was learned who Finn was? I was already done at this point but after the battle Aria huff and puffs, Finn tells her to kill him, the group has to beg for FInn's life, and then I have no idea I was uninstalling. That scene was just to much for me. From the hypocrite Princess to Finn being such a Little GIrl, to the rest of the group being brain dead morons, who don't recall other characters with bad pasts being forgiven not 5 minutes earlier. I just couldn't take anymore. <br /><br /> I was meaning to look up the ending but I just don't care. Thank you for this rant however, that was stewing in the back of my head, just waiting for somebody who experienced this mess, to cross my path. Also sorry this is like 6 years after you wrote it, some terrible plots just stay with people for life I suppose. DustynBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00007423448393376983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-57945563388519168122020-10-12T07:07:58.145-07:002020-10-12T07:07:58.145-07:00Thank you very much for leaving this comment, beca...Thank you very much for leaving this comment, because I've been wondering for like, close to 2 years about this rant's veracity: it was published shortly before Legrand Legacy released an update to the dialogue of the game as a whole, and I've been concerned that said update might change enough of the content that my experience with the game's characters and their interrelationships is no longer accurate. Which admittedly would be a GOOD thing for the game, of course, but I'd have to amend or even get rid of this rant if that were the case. And even that wouldn't really be all that terrible or anything, but...I'd have to do some substantial replaying of Legrand Legacy to fully verify all this, and the mere thought of returning to it has been exhausting. So knowing that this update hasn't seemed to change much on that front is a bit relieving, if sad, because now I don't have to have a second playthrough looming over me. So, seriously, THANK YOU for commenting.The RPGeniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752937839502693108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-268660459652553228.post-4853140947491156232020-10-10T10:56:57.337-07:002020-10-10T10:56:57.337-07:00As I'm reading this, I've just completed t...As I'm reading this, I've just completed the game about an hour ago ( after putting in about 68 hours into the game) and I agree wholeheartedly that this game is emotionally draining. It made me feel things that I'd rather not feel. It turned me into a bitter, angry person that actually affected my real self interacting with my daily life, untill I'm finally done with the game. I play RPGs to feel, and this game is heckin terrible and like the author said, the feeling of finally ending a toxic relationship, definitely on the nose once I'm done with this game. Definitely the kind of game that I've finished it full conpletion and hoped to never return to ever againSven Salmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03777366649040739300noreply@blogger.com